talk about apprenticeships. they didn't offer any shop classes or anything like that in your high school? caller: no. even the counselors, the only thing they're concerned is if you showed up to class or if you're late. no advertisements. for those people, that say that government doesn't provide jobs, it's not just regular federal government, it's also state government too. embassy -- e.m.s., firefighters, police. instead of working these minimum wage jobs, you work as a restaurant or waiter, you're not going to make anything, especially if you have kids or family, forget about it. host: thank you, jermaine. later on in the program, dr.